Master Ninja playthrough (OLB, no-Ninpo, no-item, no-UT)

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Master Ninja playthrough (OLB, no-Ninpo, no-item, no-UT)

Post by iraqoz » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:01 pm

So Iam a little tired of NGS and to break this boredom I thought of doing a NGS2 MN playthrough with the following criteria:

1- OLB: Original Life Bar
2- No-Ninpo
3- No-item
4- NO-UT: yes compared with NGS I wont use any UT/ET. It will be a UT/ET free run. Maybe sometime 1 or 2 UT get through by mistake it will be acceptable, but I'll try to redo it if I can.

It will be extremly tough thinking about that OHK B**S***. I was thinking about skipping the girls chapters but I wont do it. I want to make it a complet run. There are some spots I dont have A CLUE to get through it without ninpo or even UT :anxious:. Oh well I'll do my best its all for the fun anyway :smile:

I have good and bad news. The good one is that I got an HD capture device.....Elgato :D. The bad one is I cant play through it directly :cry:.
you see Iam really glad for this little device its awesome if you play through a HD-TV (I have test it, it run perfectly) but the only negative thing is you cant use it as a TV-tuner so you can play from your laptop like a Dazzle !!! There is input lag for about 5-10 seconds :picard:

So I will mainly use Dazzle for time been, until I find a solution.
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Post by Ylva » Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:42 pm

That's gonna be difficult. I suppose even more than a no-hurt run. Since the enemies have much more health, and the delimbing rate is low. (GT does not delimb 100%)
It will be interesting from a point of finding strats to get through, so good luck with that. And I hope you will finish this.
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Post by reim0027 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:25 pm

That's one hell of a challenge man. Good luck.
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Post by iraqoz » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:13 pm

I know I know :cry:

Its surely more difficult than a no-hurt run with UT and ninpo, and those IS-ninja take Hell of alot to get delimbed. And Iam not sure if this has been done before. but I'll try. I'll take it slowly and when I stuck on some spot I'll post here if you guys have some tips and hints I can use.

I swear there are some spots in my mind I dont have the slightest clue if they are even possible to do it without ninpo or UT :bolt:

But Whatta hell Iam taking this challenge :kungfu: :ninjacool:
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Post by Murphy's Ghost » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:28 pm

Once you have the Kusari-gama, I'd definitely abuse the crap out of Demon Cutter on the IS ninjas. Guaranteed delimb.
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Post by iraqoz » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:43 pm

Murphy's Ghost wrote:Once you have the Kusari-gama, I'd definitely abuse the crap out of Demon Cutter on the IS ninjas. Guaranteed delimb.
Noted :chores:
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Post by MuffinMan123 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:54 am

I did the girls chapters on chapter challenge using your rule set, but it's much easier in chapter challenge mode.
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Post by iraqoz » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:07 pm

Yea chapter challenge is easier. Ayanes chapter gave me mental disorder in the past any tips on useful combos against IS-ninjas with ayane?
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Post by MuffinMan123 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:58 pm



lots of lucky moments in there, but hope this will help. don't spam flying swallow like I do because if your FS doesn't hit a mage, he might teleport out and grab you when you land, you don't want that.

what you can do is to spam guillotine throw and izuna drop a lot. >TT izuna drop starter hits far and 2nd hit can track decently. if you think you can't connect izuna drop, try this.

when you fight IS ninjas, don't ever stay near the wall and you should be fine.
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Post by iraqoz » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:11 am

you made it look so easy.......
The last time I played ayanes chapter....I SWEAR those IS-ninja spam IS more than they do while Iam playing Ryu !!!! and ayane have the weakest defense, so only a splash from the explosion kills you. I can delemb the normal ninja and the mags, but those IS-ninja take forever to get delembed.
ABSOLUTLY not looking forward to her level.

I finished Chapter 1 a couple days ago. I had problem with the editing and sound so I rendered it again and I will upload tomorow.
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Post by iraqoz » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:07 pm

Chapter 1

Its nice to play this game again :D but still a little unresponsive specially if you play from your capture device :facepalm2:. Oh well awesome game anyway. I forget I have the GT and first remember it in the end of the chapter. Remember to watch in 720p for better quality, its not HD but it will give you better quality.

[align=center]NGS2 MN Chapter 1[/align]
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Post by Murphy's Ghost » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:03 am

Watched the first half. Will try to watch the rest later.


Very nicely played so far, sir.
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Post by MuffinMan123 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:38 am

try these combos for dragon sword
SST O T, instant kill on many lv 1 enemies,

gray ninja,
tech ninja,
warlocks,
brown werewolf
purple vangelf
blue winged vangelf
gold winged vangelf

also S hold T O can combo into jump SSST izuna drop.

I still have trouble getting that muscle memory down after I upgrade dragon sword to lv 2 because I still accidentally do SSTT instead of SST, and this waste a lot of frames and make you very vulnerable, but if you can get this combo down, this will make the game so much easier.
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Post by iraqoz » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:06 pm

I already know about those combo but Iam not used to use them specially SST O T, so I need to use them more. Thank you for reminding me :)
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Post by Dark Hazuki » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:31 pm

Just thought I'd offer some support and say good luck for the rest of this run. You're doing great so far. :thumb:
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Post by iraqoz » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:10 pm

Thanx man. I draw my motivation from you ninja brothers :ninjawink:
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Post by reim0027 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:06 pm

Where do you think is going to be the toughest part?
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Post by iraqoz » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:14 pm

good question..

I dont really know exactly which will be the toughest part, it was almost 3 years since I played MN in NGS2, but IIRC there some parts which gave me major pain in that time even thou I used ninpo, UT and items generously:

- The last gauntlet in chapter 3
- Gigadeath
- Momiji's chapter
- the boss of chapter 6 (the water dragon)
- Marbus-rachels's chapter (it will be a challenge on how to attack him without accidently using ET/UT)
- Armadillo :cry:
- Zedonius fight (This is alot harder than NG2, because he has minions and they are not any minion...they are Gajas :cry:)......This going to be f****** difficult.
- DID I SAY AYANE'S CHAPTER :anxious: (this was a pain with massive usage of ninpo, UT and Items.....now without anything..... imaging the horror :bolt: )
- The hallway of chapter 16 (in the beginning......it will be a long journey to the first save-status)
- Dagra Dai (OMG....comparing to other bosses in the game I dont know/have a good strategy to fight him.....and he has minions...purple VG :scared:)


Now without UT, ninpo and items every part will be a challenge I think. But those are what really gonna cause major pain to me lol.
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Post by MuffinMan123 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:29 pm

about werewolves, you are going to be screwed with only original life bar and no UT unless you use flail or tonfa. I did lv1 dragon sword run, and I can't kill werewolves at all because SST doesn't come out fast enough, so I end up just doing mario jump, arrow, and onlanding T, so that I let the armor take all that damage and it was basically gambling...
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Post by iraqoz » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:25 pm

Iam not worry about them because Iam not restricted to one weapon, so as you said flail and tonfa (specially the flail and FT level 3) own them so bad that they will be a joke, but ofcourse if they are in group I need to watch out of the of screen stomp they do.

Done with chapter 2 just need to render it :yeah:
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Post by Ylva » Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:46 pm

Momiji X counter
Rachel Y (hold)
Ayane X delimb, OT; XXXXXX
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Post by iraqoz » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:11 pm

Ylva wrote:Momiji X counter
Rachel Y (hold)
Ayane X delimb, OT; XXXXXX
Yea......I wish its only that simple lol :D
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Post by MuffinMan123 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:56 pm

momiji is all about SS>S, >SS, >T, single hit T, guillotine throw, and counter.
if you do SS>S, you can go into izuna drop like this SS>ST SS(1more S?)T.
air SSSS/SSSXS or SSST izuna drop if juggles will also work wonders if you screw up guillotine throw

iraqoz just check out my channel on how to beat marbus with rachel if you have trouble. I did like 3 times just to prove it's doable without UT ninpo and item.

I have gotten much better with ayane and momiji so I can probably do their chapters better now, but I slacked on rachel.
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Post by iraqoz » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:15 pm

Great stuff man...subbed to you BTW :wink:

Actually I dont have problem with rachel, she is very powerfull in this game, the only hard thing about her chapter is the boss. But since the discovery of T(hold) it become easier, thou the camera can still screw up. Thats why I said its hard to not do ET/UT by accident. I just watched your video (take 3) and this has to be Chapter challenge not story mode isnt ?? because she shave so much health that its unbelievable.

EDIT:
Yup its chapter challenge, because its a ninja cinema :facepalm:. As you see its much easier in chapter challenge, its a long time since I played her chapter but Iam pretty sure he take so little damage and much harder.
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Post by Murphy's Ghost » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:42 pm

Yeah, the girls have higher damage output in Chapter Challenge.

The techniques will still apply, though.
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