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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by Murphy's Ghost » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:51 pm

"Doing a karma run on NG, NGB or NGS is the hardest you can do. Patience is the only ally you have in this!"

Yeah, you're not kidding. I'd never have the patience to go back and redo Chapters for a few more points. Karma runs just aren't for me. :laugh2:


Good luck on the next gauntlet!

End of Chapter 5 must be fun on a Karma run, eh? (Or is it Chapter 6 in NGS... Ryu's Chapter that ends with the first fight vs. the red dinos and then Hydracubus?)
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:00 pm

I know the hydracubus fight will be fun with the 'Dragons claw & Tigers fang' UT. Not to mention I want to go through chapters 7 & 9 with just a level 1 lunar. I hope I can get a total of 600k more from chapters 7 & 9. Balbaid gave me the idea of doing this.

The level 1 'Dabilahro' will be of great use in chapters 11, 12, 13, 15 and 16. Perhaps I will do chapter 17 with the 'Lunar' and 'TDS'. But the Dabilahro will be of great use against the berserkers. Trust me, by then I will surely have a UF.

And thanks for the support. It is going to be hard for me to get eqch fight done properly and with a decent score. I cannot afford to save but I can use the mice for escence. But I am a little worried, because the chapter has only 12 minutes to perform 14 fights in total. However I am already (almost) 153k ahead of my old score. I will try to get a maximum of points and try not to lose too much time.

UPDATE: The gauntlet with the clock tower is a bit hard. In the first fight at the Muramasa shop I was able to get 3 UT's out of it, and in the clock tower with the BSN I got a UT and an ET out. Sometimes in the clock tower itself you can charge for a UT but the 5,000 points are not granted, because it got bugged. Smoke bombs are bugged aswell, because the soldiers run right through it even on a distace. But I can't afford to save since this costs time. Team Ninja forces you to upgrade your weapons so that you can more easily make time limits. I do not intent to shop at muramasa at this chapter but in the next Ryu-chapter. I now want to finish chapter 4 asap and get as many UT's possible. On average I spent 5 minutes and I need to do 9 fights in like ... 7 minutes?
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:15 pm

I deleted the save file at the lily door area. I will restart the game starting from the second fight, because I was able to get 2 UT's out of the very first fight, and I had a nice time on that fight.

Now for the entire gauntlet I am looking to get 9 UT's for the next five fights. Since I only have 12 minutes I cannot afford to miss any time limit in this chapter.

The game should be like this:
1st gauntlet: 2 UT's
2nd gauntlet: 9 UT's
3rd gauntlet: 16 UT's and 6 ET's

I will save a 4th time in this chapter, but only when all the fights are done for the chapter before I pick up the lily key.

Normally if I get all this I should be able to make the chapter time limit. I'll let you know in a post when chapter 4 is done.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:16 pm

Back in the day, when I did a couple karma runs, I would constantly check my game timer (on Hard mode, the chapter time limit was very stringent). I would go to fights, not fight, just wait for the end of the timer and go to the next fight until the end of the chapter. Then, I would see what my time was.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:41 pm

Currently I have a hard time getting the points I need. I am still happy if I can break the barrier of 3,2 million at the end of this chapter, but it will be hard. I cannot afford to save a lot and I cannot go to the Muramasa shop because I will exceed the 12'.

And another factor is that even normaly killed the black SAT soldier keeps giving me a yellow escence. Nevertheless I will keep trying until I am satisfied.

I think of upgrading my Lunar to lvl 2 but not before chapter 12, since a lvl 3 Lunar does more damage to dino fiends and I know some encounters in chapter 15 where a lvl 1 Dabilahro, and lvl 2 Lunar will come in handy for the UT's. Beside it would help me in the fiend challenge at the Great Bridge in chapter 16 and "maybe" in the 'Awakened Alma fight'.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:19 pm

In NGB, having very low health increased the odds of getting blue essence. Have you tried that in your run?
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:41 pm

Personaly I am not in favor of trying it. If I had a few minutes more in this chapter I would try it. But I only have 10 minutes left so firsrI need to complete is chapter succesfully before I go and try it.

UPDATE: There is a time limit I didn't make but the encounter in next gave me back 5k points + 1k bonus. So against JTB's score on his NGS run I am now 25k ahead. In the first Muramasa encounter I will go for 3 UT's. And the clock tower I can get a UT paid freely. Not to mention I got once a lucky 2 UT out of the BSN fight in the clock tower.

Chapter 4 is almost finished and I am having a lot of fun with this now, but it might take a while to get it finished properly.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:15 pm

Chapter 4 complete. I had a lot of fun but if by chance I could retry I would do it. I spent on Chapter 4 a time of 10' 29".

I am extremely happy but I have the feeling I could have got more. I will keep trying until I reach 3,2 million.

UPDATE: got an extra 12k out of the chapter thanks to the lvl1 Lunar, which means I am now 261k ahead of my previous run. I saved the game and perhaps tomorrow I will continue with chapter 5.

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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by Murphy's Ghost » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:38 am

Good luck w/ Chapter 5... :ninja:
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:02 pm

Thank you for the support here. I will try to go for 715k points and perhaps get even more.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by Murphy's Ghost » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:13 pm

What was your previous score on the chapter?
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:23 pm

I'm guessing Ch 5 is the horse with her horse hammer? Ugh. Have fun, mate.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:05 pm

Murphy's Ghost wrote:What was your previous score on the chapter?
635,470 points. I got at least 70k more then my last run.
reim0027 wrote:I'm guessing Ch 5 is the horse with her horse hammer? Ugh. Have fun, mate.
I know you are right, but so far I have a lot of fun in here. The challenge went pretty well and I can pass to 715k this run.

I might notice that it feels like I'm playing on the 'very hard' difficulty because the enemies are so agressive like on very hard. Has Sony anything to do withthe enemies their AI, because the BSN keep attacking and throw more IS then usually. I have this every time. It wasn't like that when I first played the game.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:24 pm

Chapter 5 complete, but I got 5k less then hoped, because of the BSN. Nevertheless I will continue as scheduled. I will start with chapter 6 next Wednesday evening (8.30 PM CET) because I have a lot of work to do on Monday and Tuesday

UPDATE: I took a little break to redo the fiend challenge and I got an extra 15k out of the chapter. This results in getting 90k more then my previous run.

The run is on hiatus until next Wednesday.

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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:20 pm

Looking good. You may feel the AI has been tweaked, since you are going for perfection. Everything seems against you when you do this.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:30 pm

Indeed the AI has increased. I noticed that when I first played this game the enemies weren't that agressive. Perhaps the score might do something with the enemies AI.

But, reim0027, do you know why Team Ninja hasn't fixed those bugs that are in this game after so many requests of the players?

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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:16 pm

I don't know. It may be about the money? Or, it seems like a lot of people complain about things, (here and on other forums) but in reality, it is only a small fraction of the total players. They can't listen to or please everybody.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:41 pm

I keep getting the felling I missed some points, especially at the muramasa shop in chapter 4. I retry this and perhaps I can get a better score this time.

I updated my chapter scores and I will totaly redo chapter 5 to get some extra points.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:27 pm

Do you know where you lost the points?
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 1:53 pm

yes I do. I lost a UT at the fight with the 2 BSN, 3000 points on the Great bridge teleporter, 10000 points on the lily door area and 10000 points on the last BSN fight + motocyclers.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:13 pm

Wow, that's a lot of points. Best go back and get them.
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:13 pm

I know.

There is a fact that I still can't make the time limit on the fight with just the Shield SAT and the white SAT because I miss with the bow or the shield SAT needs 5 arrows to die. This encounter really gives me nightmares, and I kept trying this fight. There I lost the first 10,000 points.

Another fact that has to be mentioned is the UT-bug. I have only a blue essence available, freshly achieved and 5 seconds later i got for the UT but I get an ET with the BLUE essence or no UT because the essence is gone, after 5 seconds. Help me out please, before I lose control and smash all games I have into the trashhole. My amount patience is running out and I can't stand it anymore to lose even more points.

28,000 points lost in total because the enemies keep screwing up everything.

Any help would be welcome

Thanks in advance
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by reim0027 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:27 pm

How's your run going?
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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by julius-ruler4 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:48 pm

It has been set on hold for now. I totaly suck with the bow and I practise on the XBOX of my little brother now to improve my skills with the bow. I made a lot of progress with the exercise.

I do hope I will have chapter 6 finished halfway September, because 23-09-2013 I go to college to specialise myself as an industrial engineer.

Still staying 153k ahead of my old score.

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Re: My NGS Normal KR

Post by Dark Hazuki » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:42 pm

julius-ruler4 wrote:... because 23-09-2013 I go to college to specialise myself as an industrial engineer.
Wow, sounds great. Good luck with that, man. :thumb:
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