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New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:05 pm
by julius-ruler4
I've been checking the top scores recently and I found a new highscore for Master Ninja.
This guy goes by the name xinrenlalala. He played master Ninja and got a top score of 26,366,147. Legit or not I'll post the scores of each chapter he cleared.

Chapter 1: 621,560
Chapter 2: 971,110
Chapter 3: 1,180,827
Chapter 4: 671,680
Chapter 5: 945,550
Chapter 6: 841,630
Chapter 7: 1,826,910
Chapter 8: 1,277,010
Chapter 9: 2,233,520
Chapter 10: 745,700
Chapter 11: 1,270,580
Chapter 12: 3,020,710
Chapter 13: 942,340
Chapter 14: 1,356,330
Chapter 15: 2,734,500
Chapter 16: 1,704,930
Chapter 17: 1,218,310
Chapter 18: 2,308,990
Chapter 19: 493,960

Total: 26,366,147 points

Legit or not?

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:24 am
by unwary
Any videos of his runs?

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:03 am
by julius-ruler4
No. I just saw these on the Sigma leaderboards. Guys did hell of a job if done legitly. If not, then alhazard retains his top spot

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:03 pm
by Bigalski
How does his chapter scores compare with the former top score? Does anything seem odd? It's been so long since I've played NGS or even seen what the current leaderboard looks like so I wouldn't know if it's legit or not.

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:10 pm
by julius-ruler4
Here are both Alhazard and xinrenlalala scores. Alhazard is in yellow and xinrenlalala is in green. Also added kelll in red

Chapter 1: 612,390 621,560 641,980
Chapter 2: 996,090 971,110 1,015,090
Chapter 3: 1,200,883 1,180,827 1,226,069
Chapter 4: 633,260 671,680 648,740
Chapter 5: 963,630 945,550 979,540
Chapter 6: 845,040 841,630 857,380
Chapter 7: 1,763,510 1,826,910 1,852,990
Chapter 8: 1,253,670 1,277,010 1,317,890
Chapter 9: 2,220,080 2,233,520 2,296,010
Chapter 10: 735,740 745,700 756,110
Chapter 11: 1,237,330 1,270,580 1,277,630
Chapter 12: 2,961,420 3,020,710 3,024,370
Chapter 13: 932,040 942,340 936,990
Chapter 14: 1,349,940 1,356,330 1,368,770
Chapter 15: 2,722,270 2,734,500 2,721,440
Chapter 16: 1,669,030 1,704,930 1,711,840
Chapter 17: 1,196,380 1,218,310 1,209,560
Chapter 18: 2,331,840 2,308,990 2,366,520
Chapter 19: 491,290 493,960 492,810

Total score: 26,115,833 26,366,147 26,701,729
Potential maximum: 26,455,523 (outdated; is now 26,701,729)

I think some things are performed by Xinrenlalala that Alhazard wasn't able to pull off. The scores I see look legit and I think he actually made some time limits that normally are impossible to make which granted the extra points. If he missed the time limit in the 5th fight of CH1 then I believe he might have rectified it with getting 6 or 7 UT's on the 6th fight there. It only seems appropriate that my second opinion is mentioned here too. While I thought of it, this seems like an odd score as Alhazard already squeezed out the possible maximum out of the game and stated that 26,3 is most certainly impossible, I could be wrong as he might have made some time limits that Alhazard didn't make. If he posted video proof then I would be able to check out if it was legit. But for now I cannot see if this is legit or not. So to play it safe - until his score is being declared totally legit - Alhazard retains the nr.1 spot on the leaderboards.

EDIT: added the scores from kelll who now takes over the nr 1 spot from xinrenlalala

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:06 pm
by JTB123
When I saw this thread I thought "oh man awesome a new karma run to watch!" :biggrin:

Do you know of the player at all? Just curious to see if there are any videos. It's a shame there are so few videos of Sigma out there so would be cool to see more high level stuff.

As for whether it's legit I couldn't say. I don't remember that much about the fights etc compared to black.

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:16 am
by julius-ruler4
No vids have been found so fay and I don't think I'll find them if there are any. Had no luck last night roaming the internet

Edit: Player hasn't recorded his run but the player seems to be Chinese. From what I can tell the score is legit and therefore "xinrenlalala" takes the first place in the NGS MN scorelist

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:55 am
by Alhazard
I knew about that run for a long time. thread in quesiton.

http://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-5217775-1-1.html

Anyone know Chinese? I'm not going to bother challenging that score even though its beatable in theory. I was really perplexed on the very high score on chp 4 until I realized that he is probably using the sweet spot JTB mentioned to farm mad scores on the bike fight. I still don't know where that spot is :(

chp 1: Doable since the max possible is around 640K
chp 2: He did worse
chp 3: worse. Probably didnt make the time on 2 difficult fights
chp 4: bike farming?
chp 5: worse.
chp 6: worse. I think my run could be improved by at least 12k
chp 7: ugh 60K difference. I definitely didn't do good in the monk room fight. Maybe he found a way to make the time limit in the 2nd armored fiend fight?
chp 8: My boss fight was very bad and some fights could be improved so it is possible.
chp 9: My alma fight, even if it made the time limit, could be improved. Maybe he also did the AC with Dabi to get lvl1 lunar in the future.
chp 10: 5K from dynamo and ???
chp 11: laser heli fight could be better and heli boss fight could be improved a lot.
chp 12: ugh 60K difference. Better fights overall and the 2nd ghost fish fight along with the pill bug and wasps could be a lot better?
chp 13: 10K doesnt seem alot but given how short the chapter is, this is very impressive. Better monastery fights?!
chp 14: 10K difference but could be a lot better with better normal fights and boss fight.
chp 15: 12K difference is huge given that the fights here have short time limits except for arena challenge. better staircase challenge for sure and 2k on the 2 ogre fight in the lava pit. 5K maybe from new boss strategy?!
chp 16: 25K difference is big. Maybe used lvl1 lunar to pickup a lot of ETs? Definitely did better on the doppleganger fights, used the optimal route for the 3 ogre fight, and 5K from AA fight?
chp 17: 20k difference is plausible with optimal 3 berserker fight and better ghost fish strategies.
chp 18: worse, which is a real shame.

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:56 am
by Royta
I asked my girlfriend to take a look - she's Taiwanese - they talk how he considers this run a 'work in progress' with failings in numerous chapters. He makes reference to Mistoltin and Tomii90's videos, and she noted something ice-related. Maybe a usage of the Ice Storm art?

Then one user shortly talks about NGB and how he/she didn't even get a MN rank.

Long Shot notes how amazing it is that Xin got the KR World Record.

They then shortly discuss how to deal with the 100 Berserker Arena. Citing that the fight is cake in NGB, but harder in NGS (? this confused me, I always thought it was the other way around).

Xin notes - and this is where her translation gets a bit shaky - that he stood on the platform in that fight, charged the 'giant knife' (dabi most likely) and killed them one by one. Once he killed 50, he'd attack two at the same time to speed things up. He tried fighting 3 at the same time but kept getting wrecked. He tried 2 times fully and chose the one with the most points. (edit: he also notes something about using 2 UT's and 2 ET's on them, not sure about the context).

Last comment notes references to Mistoltin's Hard Video and, as she translated it: J and B's. Might mean JTB, she said it was possible. Guy also notes that the run is amazing, well planned and very skilled.

That's it.

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:08 am
by Alhazard
Thanks for the summary. Now to answer you question, NGS arena challenge is much harder because berserkers in Sigma attack off-screen with the fire floors. Yeah you can counter hit their attacks except a fire floor will blow you up on the recovery (except for Lunar because you are invincible during the hitting parts but not ideal for speeding.) The best strategy is to lure one to an entrance, confuse the AI by retreating to a safe spot, then use Dabi lvl3 UTs. After you get 50 UTs, you can do 2 UTs and 2ETs to speed things up instead of using 4 UTs for 1 kill. If he actually hit 2 berserkers with UTs, it definitely explains how he got a better score in the chapter.

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:18 pm
by julius-ruler4
Kelll is now the supreme Master Ninja on NGS. Well done kelll

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:45 pm
by Juggalo423
His run is on video, I'll post a link when I get now time, watching his videos though, I noticed his score jumped 3mil, from before dark murai, to final ALL CHAPTERS CLEAR screen, I commented but haven't heard anything back

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:33 pm
by Juggalo423

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:35 pm
by Juggalo423
Koducks54 or xinrenlalala is user name....
If you look there is another name, which would be amazing if it was him, but another screenname I saw was itagaki, I can't screen to find that name now....figures

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:53 pm
by julius-ruler4
The reason it jumps 3 million ahead is because the Rachel chapters are added to the final score

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:24 pm
by Juggalo423
julius-ruler4 wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:53 pm
The reason it jumps 3 million ahead is because the Rachel chapters are added to the final score
So the sigma scores would be significantly higher than NGB scores right?

Re: New Master Ninja highscore

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:37 pm
by julius-ruler4
indeed due to the rachel chapters. Despite the amount of time they cut off from most fights that were just farming, the rachel chapters bring a big boost towards the final score