NGS Hard KR

PLATFORM: PS3; RELEASE: June 14th 2007
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NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:45 pm

Hard is hard.

[table=width:50%;border:1px solid #FFFFFF;][tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 1[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]625,140[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 2[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,006,820[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 3[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,119,610[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter Challenge[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 4[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]699,310[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 5[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]847,560[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter Challenge[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 6[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]826,850[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 7[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,803,950[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Part 1 Challenge Part 3[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 8[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,236,530[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter Challenge[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 9[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,599,140[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter Challenge[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 10[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]708,840[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 11[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,201,050[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 12[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]2,929,380[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Part 1 Part 2 Challenge[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 13[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]880,440[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 14[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,241,650[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter Challenge[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 15[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]2,630,600[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter Challenges[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 16[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,402,660[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter Challenges[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 17[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]1,191,340[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 18[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]2,257,920[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Part 1 Part 2[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Chapter 19[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]491,550[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]See above[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:left;][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]Final[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;]24,700,340[/td][td=border:1px solid #FFFFFF;][/td][/tr][/table]
Finished chapter 7 this morning.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by reim0027 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:52 pm

How do you feel it is going?
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:37 pm

I'm going to be honest, I only been playing NGS again while waiting on turns on multiplayer games of Civilization 4 that I am playing at the moment. Didn't think this would be a serious run, but now it is. Kind of upset because I lost 10K on chp7 to the current top score, but oh well. Cloud definitely put his work in his Karma run, but I think I can still beat his overall score.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:12 pm

Beat chapter 8 in one day but will probably take at least 1 week for chp 9.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:55 am

Vid for chapter 1 is up featuring Bigalski and JTB!
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:55 pm

Uploaded upto chapter 3. I will have to wait on the commentary before publishing more.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by JTB123 » Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:27 pm

Really nice gameplay on these man, are you gunning for the no.1 spot on this run?
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:31 pm

Yes. It will be hard but doable. Already ahead by 55k. At hydracubus gauntlet.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:03 pm

Arghhh have to redo hydracubus gauntlet. Looks like Cloud 1 cycled the boss.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by JTB123 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:50 am

I've always considered the Hydra gauntlet one of the toughest things to max out. It's killer getting everything perfect then not getting the boss right and having to redo it all.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:57 pm

The boss is easier I think because there is only 1 cat in play at a time in hard. If I take the score now, I would lose 50k. Need to redo this until I am satisfied with my score.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:15 am

I don't think I can get chp9 done this week. Need to experiment heavily on the hydracubus gauntlet, and right now I am in very important turns in my MP Civ4 game.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by reim0027 » Sat Feb 28, 2015 10:37 pm

Ugh. I hate that gauntlet. Way too many fights in a row, ending in a PITA boss. Anyway, nice job on the videos.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:21 pm

Uploaded upto chapter 6.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:49 pm

I'm just going to take a 25k-30k hit on this chapter. Mad props to cloud98 for his effort. I really wonder what happened to cloud98, yeodevil, endlessmemory, hyzen, brightonlove, pixelrevolt, huimin, devilsky, ariaofsorrow, and their vids? (I know tomii is probably addicted to re5mercs, a great game imo) Did their knowledge all disappear with IW?

Also I agree that Kelll is one of the best NGB/S players in the world. I would put the top4 in no particular order as: JTB, balbaid, Kelll, Icelord.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by JTB123 » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:08 pm

Is that chapter 9 you're referring to? Ch.7 in NGB?

I assume it's the Hydra gauntlet that's the issue? Also IIRC the time limit on Alma is extremely short in Sigma, you pretty much have to rely on the loop strat to net a decent score.

Looking forward to the video though man, keep it up :thumb:
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:31 pm

Yes chp9 in NGS = chp7 in NGB. Definitely lost the 25k in the hydracubus gaunlet but I don't care anymore. Tried that part wayyyy too many times. As usual for me, will retry 10 times to see if I can beat my own score then move-on if I can't. Made the Alma time limit in the MN run, pretty sure I can do it here too and even with more score since I will start the fight with an UT chained from the previous fight. (no time to save in between).
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:42 am

Sorry for the long wait but I got a very good score in chp9. Only lost to cloud by 5k.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by reim0027 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:22 pm

Looking great, so far. Now, let the major UT farming begin!
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:28 am

I went back and redid the Alma fight so I have the new chapter high score :embarrassed:
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by reim0027 » Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:41 pm

When can we expect the video?
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:18 pm

Waiting on commentary.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by Alhazard » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:24 am

I wanted to take this chance to say please don't take my tone in youtube comments offensively. I do agree with most of the criticism especially regarding movement. No way I would consider myself as one of the best NGB/S players in the world. Also I really appreciate the commentary and the discussions on KRing.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by reim0027 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:37 pm

I don't even read the YT comments. Well, maybe if I want to laugh at the idiots hiding behind anonymity . . . Otherwise, I don't pay attention to them.
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Re: NGS Hard KR

Post by JTB123 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:29 am

Alhazard wrote:I wanted to take this chance to say please don't take my tone in youtube comments offensively. I do agree with most of the criticism especially regarding movement. No way I would consider myself as one of the best NGB/S players in the world. Also I really appreciate the commentary and the discussions on KRing.
Don't worry about that man, you're the one doing the run :smile: When we watch the video over we are looking at it from the perspective that "if everything goes well" and we all know that is not what happens on a karm run. Those talking points are to try and get across to people unfamiliar just how much you have to keep track of.

The main thing with the AC challenge is that while I think it's very difficult with the given time limit, it would be possible to get 50 UT's if all goes well. I would even consider going in at low health to start with and abusing the hell out of ninpo to try and get blues most of the time. I use the word possible very strongly though, it's by no mean a critiscm of you that you didn't grind out endlessly to try. It's just something we wanted to mention that's all.

But as you've said the main benefit of these is the discussion aspect, we've mentioned it in the video about how difficult karma runs at this level are and just discussing the amount of information involved is a feat all on its own.

Hard is also a tough mode to karma run on top of everything else, your level of play is very impressive so I hope the minor criticsms we do mention don't dishearten you in any way. It's great that you're putting in the work to record this run as well, very few people understand the amount of time it takes to get this stuff done on video so it's great you're doing that as well.

Keep it up man :thumb: This run is awesome.
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