DotF 2 (finished!) | VH run progress

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DotF 2 (finished!) | VH run progress

Post by SkullTrauma » Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:34 am

I'm trying to get through this mission on normal and it's kicking my ass. I can take out the first ogre and the two dinos, and if I'm lucky one berserker... after that, everything goes to hell. I have no idea how to handle berserkers, especially when there are other monsters nearby. They hit hard and I panic once they transform. :|

I've been using this vid as a guide, but I nearly always get smacked by the ogre when following up my UT, and once that berserker comes... game over.
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Puregrunt » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:09 am

I'll have to take a better look at this mission when i get home, so i can help you. You can use a few different ways to kill Beserkers. One is with the Flails, and the other is with a heavy weapon like the Dabilahro or Dark Dragon blade. The Flails technique is more complicated, whereas the other two are easy. You need to learn when you can attack a Beserker, with a forward strike (->Y) immediately after they do a shoulder barge, you back off straight after to block and roll if you need to. Never get greedy with them, otherwise you'll eat some sort of crazy combo. You can also use an Ultimate Technique if there's essence nearby. You can also manipulate the camera so that when there's two of them, you focus on just one and the other won't attack you.


Its been a long time since ive played this mission and i'm at work right now, so i hope this helps somewhat for the time being.


Here a video of me fighting Beserkers, so you get an idea how i do it.
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by SkullTrauma » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:44 am

thanks for the response, but that video is unavailable. :(

i wish i could practice on just one berserker by itself for awhile. took a break from getting stomped to make a little progress in my first VH run. (chapter 5, woohoo!)
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Murphy's Ghost » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:16 am

SkullTrauma wrote:thanks for the response, but that video is unavailable. :(

i wish i could practice on just one berserker by itself for awhile. took a break from getting stomped to make a little progress in my first VH run. (chapter 5, woohoo!)
Hmm... you might get a chance, then. (To fight them one on one...) I don't remember if they start showing up in VH or Master Ninja but I think you'll fight some of them on Very Hard. :deepthought:


That video you showed looks like a Karma-oriented strategy (going for high score). It might be easier to use the Dabilahro's XXXXXY combo on the Ogres and Dinos. But the strategy in the video is pretty good, too- the player is pretty skilled.
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Puregrunt » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:37 am

I updated the video link, it wasn't linked properly for some reason :scratch:
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by SkullTrauma » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:47 am

you made that look so easy... maybe there's hope after all. :D
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Dark Hazuki » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:48 am

Welcome to the forums. :wave:

This video may be of help. Trent Steel burns through this mission in 2 mins with a little help from some well timed Ut/ET's.

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Berserkers can be a right pain in the arse, especially when there's two on screen. It's been a while since I played this game, but if I recall correctly, it was best to block their first hit, roll-cancel away and then ->Y with the Dabi. It's hard to explain, but they go down pretty easy with a bit of practice using this method.
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by SkullTrauma » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:04 am

thanks for the welcome and the video! glad to find a site for this game that still has people around to ask questions. i've made it a little farther, but haven't finished the mission yet... i'm stubborn as hell, though, so it WILL get done!

VH run... i'm dreading alma. i had to resort to a talisman of rebirth for friggin DYNAMO... i can only imagine what's ahead...
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Dark Hazuki » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:15 am

You're welcome, mate. :thumb:

Good luck on your VH run as well. Let us know how it goes.
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by mickstupp » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:21 am

SkullTrauma! Welcome to the forum!
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Puregrunt » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:47 am

Oh yes, i forgot completely. welcome aboard SkullTrauma :thumb:
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Post by SkullTrauma » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:59 am

WOOHOO! I beat it! :yahoo: Thanks for the help!

I'm sure I'll be back with more questions next time I get my ass handed to me. :D
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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Puregrunt » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:07 pm

Nice work! Now you just have to finish all missions on Master Ninja and get 50 million :smile:




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Re: Descent of the Fiends Phase 2 help please :(

Post by Murphy's Ghost » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:23 pm

@ SkullTrauma - Your avatar's hilarious. :laugh2:


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Post by SkullTrauma » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:21 am

up to chapter 6 in VH. fiend ryu is a chump, but the fiend challenge is a nightmare. i skipped this one on hard, and will likely do so again. so many cats around my neck!
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Post by SkullTrauma » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:28 am

chapter 7 now. still haven't done the archive challenge, or even really started this chapter. i'm outside han's bar farming to prepare for alma. red ninjas are getting easier to deal with. max talismans, max health potions, two ninpo slots, and wooden sword is one upgrade away from UF. i was trying to bring UF to alma, but muramasa's being an ass and said no. i think he wants me to die.
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Post by Murphy's Ghost » Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:53 pm

What's the enemy line-up for the Archive on VH, I forget? On MN I know it's cats and flame ninja, is it the same for VH?

If so you could use the 'run upstairs and charge UTs' method that I think Karma runs would use, and it's not as hard that way. To do it on the ground floor on the higher difficulties is really tough without losing a lot of your items. Good luck!
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Post by SkullTrauma » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:55 pm

VH archive is monks and black cats. I ended up skipping it -- even with max items I couldn't pull it off. Alma went down on the first try, though. Chapter 12 now. :)

I seem to have missed a scarab somewhere along the way... I know it wasn't in chapter 3 or 9, and was under the impression anything else I could go back for. I *think* I missed one in chapter 7, but I can't seem to find my way back to that area after the flood. The path I would have taken after beating the bone dragon is blocked off, and so is the way in from the moat. Was there another way in that I'm forgetting about?
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Post by Ninja Noob » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:20 am

Hello SkullTrauma, welcome! I'm a noob like you. I think that most of the later missions are designed to be played after you completed all the difficulty on story mode at least once, so you had the chance to fight any of the new monsters individually, before you fight multiple types. So, if you like to play them before you clear story mode on MN, do it, but simply skip those which you find too hard by your current skill level.

Same for the Archives challenge: I cleared it on Hard, but simply skipped it on VH... it was for the integrity of my TV monitor, joypad and console. I kept the save so I will try it in the future. There are some vids on youtube about VH archives challenge, showing some tricks, but even with those tricks I find that challenge tedious... also, keep in mind that you can do this challenge AFTER you've beaten the bone dinosaur, so you can use a level three dragon sword, and the charged gleaming blade move (360 Y): there is a vid that says it is a preatty useful move against cats.
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Re: DotF 2 (finished!) | VH run progress

Post by SkullTrauma » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:37 am

VH complete! :yahoo:

the bootleg Alma in chapter 15 was a joke, but the one with the whip right after her was mean... she took a couple tries just to even get one hit in. missed one scarab though, so no DDB for me. again. :picard:

eternal legend, i'm comin' for you! ...
once i get through all the other missions in the way.
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Post by Puregrunt » Tue Feb 12, 2013 11:59 am

Good luck with Eternal Legend man :thumb:
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Post by Dark Hazuki » Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:13 pm

Congrats! :ninjacool:
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Post by reim0027 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:18 am

Yeah, I had problems with Ishtaros too. Have fun with EL and MN!
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Re: DotF 2 (finished!) | VH run progress

Post by Marsbar » Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:47 pm

There are a several scarabs that are easy to forget. At least for me they are the one after the first worm, the one in the hallway just before Paa Zuu, the one in the maze after the pyramid, and the one on your way up the stairs of the core.

I think the only ones you can't go back and get are the ones on the airship.

Hate it when I get to the end and only have 49 scarabs.
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Post by SkullTrauma » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:28 pm

on my hard playthrough, i missed the one on top of the keycard building in the military base. on vh i missed one somewhere in the hidden underground, which is blocked off after the flood. i was using my checklist, too.. which really bugs me. I must have grabbed it right after a save, then died and forgot to grab it again.
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